Epistomology and Origins

Educated Shoprat had an excellent post regarding the Ultimate Question of God's existence, intelligent design, etc. In my ranting opportunities, fate brought it that robosquirrel and I have entered into an interesting dialogue. Maybe I read him wrong (please tell me as you review Shoprat's blog). I'll post his response and go from there:

OK, maybe I wasn't clear. I don't know about "The Agnostic View", but I don't pretend to have some some kind of superiority over those who believe in God (or don't - I accept that anything's possible but that don't think there is a way to prove it). What I didn't say in so many words is that my view is that knowledge can not be absolute. I don't KNOW that we can never know, how could I? How do you know God is eternal, all-knowing and all-powerful? That is certainly belief, but belief and fact are no more mutually exclusive than they are mutually inclusive. Perhaps.
Perhaps, when we die and go to heaven, we are suddenly instilled with the Ultimate Answer and everything makes sense. Even if we were able to determine scientifically how life began and the world was formed, we probably wouldn't really know whether we'd actually figured it out or not.
This is going to be a never-ending philosophical circle. I don't know that you can't know, but you don't know that I don't know that you can't know, and so on. What I mean is that there is a limit to human understanding, because the only things we can even come close to considering fact are things we can observe. One can believe that Adam and Eve were the first humans and sculpted out of mud by God, but the only evidence we have of that is a book written by people and translated and reinterpreted and edited by people over the course of well over thousands of years. Does that make it fact? Some say yes; that's their opinion. I think that's a pretty shaky foundation for understanding the way the world works.

Thank you, robosquirrel! If, I misunderstood you before, forgive me. Now I will deal with your response.

What I mean is that there is a limit to human understanding, because the only things we can even come close to considering fact are things we can observe.
I like this. I agree that our understanding is limited; however, observation is not the final arbitrator on fact. How many things are out there that pre-existed us, that was reality without our consent to so. Planetoids, etc, that are a trillions of miles away, yet because we haven't seen it yet, we presume it didn't exist until we saw it. Observations tell me that you, robosquirrel, did not exist until last week when our dialogue began. Now, history on your blogsite may offer information contrary to my assessment, yet I feel you didn't exist because I did not observe said facts until now. With the theories of the ever-expanding universe from the scientific community, I say: Duh! Yet, they posit this information as it were new, yet Biblical texts attest to this very concept long before the 'scientists' did.

Observable data: Everything has a design! Period! We sit here musing over DNA chains and the such; and each shows a unique design and structure not from happenstance but order. Yet, to create/maintain such a variety of differences, you would need an infinitely intelligent creator to have these exist apart from itself. When watches and books are made, they exist apart from the designer/manufacturer but show order and design. So, if on a small scale we can view something so simplistic; why would it be so difficult that someone/something infinite created the ever expanding universe?

In high school, I hated that the math teachers could not come out and state the obvious in the simplest of equations. Any fraction with zero as the denominator was yielded as "undefined". However, in the college level it is yielded as "infinity". The latter being the correct assessment. However, what must be considered in this simple answer? What must be considered in light of the fact that only infinity can produce something from nothing? Big-Bang wrong! Creationism right!

Think about it. Undefined was evolution's answer because it saved face for its pathetic attempt to answer origins which cannot be observed or reproduced in a lab, yet public schools must adhere to this hypothesis that has no substantial evidence to support its tenets. Yet, infinity, which in itself cannot be grasped fully (your point), save by an Infinite Being (my point) offers us much evidence each second. It's not impersonal, not completely transcendent and non-committal; but, loving and willing to interact with His creation. Even there is observable data about the Infinite Creator. All-wise; all-powerful; all-knowing and Eternal because those are encapsulated in Infinity.

So, where do we land in light of an Infinite Being? Smack dab at accountabilities door for us finite beings! Oft times ideologies apart from Judeo/Christian refuse to acknowledge man's fault and desire to stray from the One they know created them. Evolution relegates man to animalistic tendencies rather than being outright depraved! Animalistic behaviour is the product of depravity and absense of morality. It then tries to justify human atrocity and then blurs the line between good and evil. Then, we embrace the devilish ideologies of pragmatism and existentialism which basically says "I don't care what He says, I'll see it out my way regardless!"

You're reference to the unreliability of the Bible will be addressed here. I look forward to further dialogue.